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Changes to official servers

Stormeus

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Changes to official servers
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In order to limit the seemingly arbitrary nature of the promotion of official servers, and to avoid confusion and further debates on the qualifications of certain servers over others, the following criteria are now being used to determine whether a server should be listed as official or not:
  • If the server was listed as official in 2011 and earlier, it'll remain official today.
  • If the server is actively maintained and headed or developed by a VC:MP developer or VC:MP beta tester, the server will be promoted to official status.
  • Since the LU team is also part of the VC:MP team, any active servers headed or developed by a LU developer or LU beta tester will also be promoted to official status.
  • Any official servers that fail these criteria will be removed from the official listing.
These changes will help maintain a stricter definition of "official" in the server browser.

:edit: The list of changes to the official server listing is as follows.

Demote
  • Evolution A/D — no developers or testers in a leadership role
  • Daydream RP — no developers or testers in a leadership role

Promote
  • XE — has been official prior to 2011 (is not online yet and will appear on launch)
  • Liberty City Unleashed — is developed and run by LU developers

No Change
  • Argonath — I'm hosting and maintaining it
  • littlewhitey's — is developed and run by LU devs
  • MK CTF — is developed by a LU beta tester (@Murdock)

Re: Changes to official servers
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Quote from Stormeus on July 28th, 2016, 05:51 PM
It's worth reiterating that the bar is a bit higher than simply having beta testers as staff. They either need to be in some sort of management position or they'd need to have helped develop the server. Given that, I wouldn't expect anyone on our beta team to just join any given server in this kind of role.
I don't think its so hard for server owners to have idle manager to get official status. Anyway being in official list means being in social connection with vc-mp's devs, it can be called with any name as "nepotism" or "trusted server" but it's a nature of any types 'official list'. So nothing will change really with any rules about that list. At last it's more clear now, as one said before.

Re: Changes to official servers
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Quote from vito on July 28th, 2016, 06:27 PM
I don't think its so hard for server owners to have idle manager to get official status. Anyway being in official list means being in social connection with vc-mp's devs
No, it means having been a beta tester or developer. I don't think we've recruited any in a long while. If you look at the list of official servers from 2011, you'll also find that pretty much all of them were run by devs or beta testers.

http://archive.vc-mp.org/to2011/index.php#5

Re: Changes to official servers
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What about unofficial servers, using Official Server in their server names?

Re: Changes to official servers
« Reply #19,  »
Quote from Stormeus on July 28th, 2016, 06:37 PM
No, it means having been a beta tester or developer. I don't think we've recruited any in a long while. If you look at the list of official servers from 2011, you'll also find that pretty much all of them were run by devs or beta testers.

http://archive.vc-mp.org/to2011/index.php#5
You're correct. I don't know history of vc-mp and I don't know real contribution of vc-mp devs/tester in each official server. All I can see - nowdays XE writen by Drake (vcmp tester?) and this is in official list. What is the reason for that, is it there was a server with same name in past or because some old money there in management of new XE - I don't know too. One thing I know is an human nature to help to their friends. And I can't rate it a "clearly bad", it was born in natural selection at last.

Re: Changes to official servers
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Alot of things happen, a good standard is neglected and only causes disappointment, Some may be wasting time on this game, but for me as an example, I'm just trying to do something better, and even I had succeeded ofcourse I wanted something and now I can't be like "I made the best server in VCMP, now give me money as a reward" No, all in all what really had mattered was a fucking attention so that the struggled put into coding it is atleast known to the community and is not dusted.
@Doom_Kill3R : In case you waste time on making something new and unique, then you do it for the good of the community and players to have a large range of new gamedmodes, not to get official status. If you think the way I do, then you must be happy since no one is blocking you to offer your contributions to the community via servers.
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I care more about players having a good time in my server :) , thats what its all about!!!  Also i guess 9 out of 10 players look in the browser for servers with players instead of using Officials tab.
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Well don't worry I'm going to open my own masterlist with more ethical official policies
@EK.CrystalBlue: Sure go ahead. Official servers will remain as official whether you open or not your own browser/masterlist. Rules can't be revised by those who are not part of VC-MP team.


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Mean a normal guy server can not become Official Right?
if i am right so this rule is not good this mean if developer or tester have empty server its will also become official?
This is a very dumb question. Common sense :)
Quote from vito on July 28th, 2016, 06:54 PM
Quote from Stormeus on July 28th, 2016, 06:37 PM
No, it means having been a beta tester or developer. I don't think we've recruited any in a long while. If you look at the list of official servers from 2011, you'll also find that pretty much all of them were run by devs or beta testers.

http://archive.vc-mp.org/to2011/index.php#5
You're correct. I don't know history of vc-mp and I don't know real contribution of vc-mp devs/tester in each official server. All I can see - nowdays XE writen by Drake (vcmp tester?) and this is in official list. What is the reason for that, is it there was a server with same name in past or because some old money there in management of new XE - I don't know too. One thing I know is an human nature to help to their friends. And I can't rate it a "clearly bad", it was born in natural selection at last.
@vito: I think you're a bit wrong here, I'd suggest you to review the VC-MP history deeper.

Although it is not running right now due to a new script development, Extreme Addicts has been offering unique TDM elements since 2011 as official server, developed, administrated all by myself from the very beginning. It is not such a huge legacy alike the other legendary servers and the activity peaks could oscillate, but it has been always encompassed as LW/XE/EA - from TDM/DM popular servers. This is my input as a beta tester now, although I've managed to promote my server without being in such position. The legacy is important here.


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What about unofficial servers, using Official Server in their server names?
@Eva: Ignore them and ban them from materlist?


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Now everybody will invite vcmp devs/testers to their server to wear official rank ;D
@vito: We are aware of this, and this is not going to happen or provide any chance for thrid-party server owners and founders to be promoted.


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I don't think its so hard for server owners to have idle manager to get official status. Anyway being in official list means being in social connection with vc-mp's devs
There is a bunch of people in touch with VC-MP team and it has nothing to do anyway.

Re: Changes to official servers
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@Castagna, I agree with what you said no doubt, I have done contribution to one of the best server in VCMP history that is Argonath RPG with aXXo and Fuzzie and believe me I loved it.

So yeah as I said I'm satisfied with these now.


Re: Changes to official servers
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Quote from Castagna on July 28th, 2016, 09:49 PM
@vito: I think you're a bit wrong here, I'd suggest you to review the VC-MP history deeper.

Although it is not running right now due to a new script development, Extreme Addicts has been offering unique TDM elements since 2011 as official server, developed, administrated all by myself from the very beginning. It is not such a huge legacy alike the other legendary servers and the activity peaks could oscillate, but it has been always encompassed as LW/XE/EA - from TDM/DM popular servers. This is my input as a beta tester now, although I've managed to promote my server without being in such position. The legacy is important here.
But it's the history. Now days drake created XE, under same brand though.