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Title: Just take a look at this
Post by: EK.IceFlake on Jan 07, 2016, 07:41 PM
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Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: . on Jan 07, 2016, 11:16 PM
Well, if a player is a troll and an admin is just another player with slightly more privileges... what would the expected result be?

Want to punish them? Stop playing on the server. As if that's gonna happen :D
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: Stormeus on Jan 07, 2016, 11:27 PM
Why would you even bother trying to hack their server? It just makes you look dumb and petty. Not that their admin team is doing too great anyway.
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: Taweel on Jan 08, 2016, 12:18 AM
dont cry you midget
hahahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahhah
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: Diamond on Jan 08, 2016, 03:51 AM
Quote from: Taweel on Jan 08, 2016, 12:18 AMdont cry you midget
hahahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahhah

I doubt on something when people laugh without any reason on their own.

On: Good, @NE.CrystalBlue, i saw One of the admins of VCCNR spreading wrong rumuors about someone.
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: Xmair on Jan 08, 2016, 04:42 AM
Let me get it straight, they banned you from the server because they didn't wanted you to play there and from that time you are just trying to 'hack' their server. This won't help. You should leave that server and live in peace.
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: EK.IceFlake on Jan 08, 2016, 09:13 AM
Quote from: Stormeus on Jan 07, 2016, 11:27 PMWhy would you even bother trying to hack their server? It just makes you look dumb and petty. Not that their admin team is doing too great anyway.
Not just "trying". I success!
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: DizzasTeR on Jan 08, 2016, 09:17 AM
You take unfair advantages of the exploits Crystal, you also took the same unfair advantage of injections to hack my IRC bot, what would you expect people to do then.
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: EK.IceFlake on Jan 08, 2016, 09:36 AM
Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Jan 08, 2016, 09:17 AMYou take unfair advantages of the exploits Crystal, you also took the same unfair advantage of injections to hack my IRC bot, what would you expect people to do then.
I was just showing you that exploit so that you can able to fix it.
They were taking unfair advantages of their adminship why cant I take "unfair" advantage of my skills
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: DemWafflez on Jan 08, 2016, 10:27 AM
Let me clear this up a bit.

Dogola got a special treatment by Razor because he's a fuckhead in general, who misbehaved and spammed on our forums, and yet I unbanned him for a last chance. The topic was merely about an /unjail anyways. It's plain simple, he's being a bitch, so will we be.

The complaint against Sachiko, is merely about a kick from the IRC. And I agree with Sachiko that he is annoying and undermines many admins, not sure if on purpose or due the lack of common sense.

As the third complain has no evidence at all, only quoted logs which can be manipulated easily, we can and will not take actions based on that. As he was aware he was 'being abused' he should've captured the required evidence for us to decide on.


Now about our friend Crystal, whom has been banned for quite a while, by me I believe.
He's been evading bans, insulting me personally on other servers such as VK's, attempting to hack us for a long period, and apparently he yesterday even managed to obtain OP status on our IRC, which thankfully I could prevent from doing any more harm due to the notification Sardar gave me.

To me, you are just a stupid little kid who can not deal with his own mistakes and is still on a path to hack us, or whatever you aim to do, which will be useless anyways. Hack us, we seal it and go on. Try to infect us, we ain't that stupid. Spread bad words and rumors about us, still 0 fucks given. Players will at the end still join our server, and judge for themselves. Merely anyone reads this shit here anyways.
We have just been ignoring your presence, and I will keep on doing so, because you are not worth a second of my life.

-DemWafflez
VCCNR Owner/Head admin.
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: Stormeus on Jan 08, 2016, 03:58 PM
Quote from: NE.CrystalBlue on Jan 08, 2016, 09:36 AM
Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Jan 08, 2016, 09:17 AMYou take unfair advantages of the exploits Crystal, you also took the same unfair advantage of injections to hack my IRC bot, what would you expect people to do then.
I was just showing you that exploit so that you can able to fix it.

You're an idiot.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsible_disclosure
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: EK.IceFlake on Jan 09, 2016, 09:06 AM
Quote from: Stormeus on Jan 08, 2016, 03:58 PM
Quote from: NE.CrystalBlue on Jan 08, 2016, 09:36 AM
Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Jan 08, 2016, 09:17 AMYou take unfair advantages of the exploits Crystal, you also took the same unfair advantage of injections to hack my IRC bot, what would you expect people to do then.
I was just showing you that exploit so that you can able to fix it.

You're an idiot.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsible_disclosure
I don't understand it
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: DizzasTeR on Jan 09, 2016, 09:57 AM
I'm actually ashamed of Razor and Sachiko being in VU and then having an attitude like that, is that all left for VU to accept amongst the people? The last report link seriously pissed me off, one guy abuses his powers and the other one declined the report because 'no video proof'. Such chaos.
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: Sachiko on Jan 09, 2016, 05:35 PM
Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Jan 09, 2016, 09:57 AMI'm actually ashamed of Razor and Sachiko being in VU and then having an attitude like that, is that all left for VU to accept amongst the people? The last report link seriously pissed me off, one guy abuses his powers and the other one declined the report because 'no video proof'. Such chaos.

Excuse me for exercising the right to a fair judgement. Only text proof was provided. Not pics or video. I was still watching the person in question as people were accusing HIM of being a hacker to me via PM while I was in-game. Not only that, the day it happened he was trying to pass off as a Beta Team member. I asked Kirollos to ask Castagna if there was someone from Germany who was in the beta team and Castagna informed me there was not(I now know that bogart was using a VPN as when I banned him(more than once which prompted me to ban his subnet), other players were banned as well. And despite the denial of the report, Razor was told to straighten up in our staff chat that we hold once in a while. Berating me for not accepting such an easily modifiable form of proof is like berating the cops for not accepting charges where the only witness is the victim and no clear evidence is given.
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: WiLsOn on Jan 09, 2016, 05:55 PM
You're complaining about their staff but you should edit your post and report yourself too.
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: Danix on Jan 09, 2016, 06:14 PM
Hippie get a job!
You know...I actually feel sorry for you, not having anything better to do than this all day long every single day of your worthless life.
I would love to punch you in your face, even though I'd get arrested for animal abuse it would still be totally worth it. Seriously, you wonder why people like you get banned? Last time I saw your kind I fed it a banana.  I am jealous of the other communities who don't have you.
Friendly piece of advice, get a life because this is not paying your electricity bills...the water bill shouldn't be a problem cause you probably take a bath once a year.
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: Stormeus on Jan 10, 2016, 02:19 AM
Not gonna lie though, looking at this from a player's perspective, VCCNR's handling of admin duties is abysmal.
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: DemWafflez on Jan 10, 2016, 02:34 PM
Quote from: Stormeus on Jan 10, 2016, 02:19 AMNot gonna lie though, looking at this from a player's perspective, VCCNR's handling of admin duties is abysmal.

I remember waiting for more than 5 days to get registration approval on this forum, that is abysmal to me, yet I did not complain.
You may find our ways of handling certain things 'abysmal', but everyone has other ways and manners to handle their community.
And as far as I am aware, we yet are running smooth, with rarely any issues, and a stable and decent player count. (Exceeding the VK's, just to rub it in their face)

Honestly this entire deal is because some kid got banned, because he ailed to follow our most simple rules, and he wishes to see us burn to the ground, which he has desperately been trying for quite a while, and yet did not succeed in.
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: Stormeus on Jan 10, 2016, 08:24 PM
Quote from: DemWafflez on Jan 10, 2016, 02:34 PMI remember waiting for more than 5 days to get registration approval on this forum, that is abysmal to me, yet I did not complain.
Honestly, I wasn't even aware that registration approval was still a thing. If you had actually brought it to my attention, I would've fixed the issue like I did just now. Email approval is currently set up and working, so thanks.

Quote from: DemWafflez on Jan 10, 2016, 02:34 PMYou may find our ways of handling certain things 'abysmal', but everyone has other ways and manners to handle their community.
And as far as I am aware, we yet are running smooth, with rarely any issues, and a stable and decent player count. (Exceeding the VK's, just to rub it in their face)
And that's great, but personally I don't see the appeal in the admins taking a lot of the threads in the complaints board so personally and constantly cursing out people reporting them, calling them retards, and closing reports against themselves with snarky comments. Personally it makes me want to stay the hell away from your server, but if your player base is perfectly fine with it then oh well.
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: Sachiko on Jan 10, 2016, 08:36 PM
Quote from: Stormeus on Jan 10, 2016, 08:24 PM
Quote from: DemWafflez on Jan 10, 2016, 02:34 PMI remember waiting for more than 5 days to get registration approval on this forum, that is abysmal to me, yet I did not complain.
Honestly, I wasn't even aware that registration approval was still a thing. If you had actually brought it to my attention, I would've fixed the issue like I did just now. Email approval is currently set up and working, so thanks.

Quote from: DemWafflez on Jan 10, 2016, 02:34 PMYou may find our ways of handling certain things 'abysmal', but everyone has other ways and manners to handle their community.
And as far as I am aware, we yet are running smooth, with rarely any issues, and a stable and decent player count. (Exceeding the VK's, just to rub it in their face)
And that's great, but personally I don't see the appeal in the admins taking a lot of the threads in the complaints board so personally and constantly cursing out people reporting them, calling them retards, and closing reports against themselves with snarky comments. Personally it makes me want to stay the hell away from your server, but if your player base is perfectly fine with it then oh well.

As I was the only manager active at the time and the owner has said that managers handle the complaints, what was I to do? Leave it for nobody to resolve? And if someone is acting like a retard, I'll tell them so. I curse when irritated, and what bugs an admin more than people who don't follow the simplest of rules? The players who I have cursed out know that I do that when they break rules they know are there. Personally, I don't see the appeal of idling in an echo channel of a server you find so abysmal. But, hey, do what you want.
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: Stormeus on Jan 10, 2016, 09:06 PM
Quote from: Sachiko on Jan 10, 2016, 08:36 PMAs I was the only manager active at the time and the owner has said that managers handle the complaints, what was I to do? Leave it for nobody to resolve?
Yeah, that probably would've been a preferable course of action.

Quote from: Sachiko on Jan 10, 2016, 08:36 PMAnd if someone is acting like a retard, I'll tell them so. I curse when irritated, and what bugs an admin more than people who don't follow the simplest of rules? The players who I have cursed out know that I do that when they break rules they know are there.
I don't see how this is an excuse. LW's admins (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/board,91.0.html) seem to have no problem with not calling trouble players retarded and telling them to fuck off. I don't know why you would want to anyway; part of being a server admin is covering your ass from moaners, and cursing out players just gives people the impression that the admin team actually is abusive.

Quote from: Sachiko on Jan 10, 2016, 08:36 PMPersonally, I don't see the appeal of idling in an echo channel of a server you find so abysmal. But, hey, do what you want.
Well, there is the fact that one of our clanmates was just demoted in part because of his behavior on VCCNR. If you don't want me there, though, so be it.
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: Sachiko on Jan 10, 2016, 09:44 PM
Quote from: Stormeus on Jan 10, 2016, 09:06 PMYeah, that probably would've been a preferable course of action.
Alright, I'm not above constructive criticism.

Quote from: Stormeus on Jan 10, 2016, 09:06 PMI don't see how this is an excuse. LW's admins (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/board,91.0.html) seem to have no problem with not calling trouble players retarded and telling them to fuck off. I don't know why you would want to anyway; part of being a server admin is covering your ass from moaners, and cursing out players just gives people the impression that the admin team actually is abusive.
As said above, not above constructive criticism and yes, I know I should control my anger more when it comes to petty things like people in an online game/community

Quote from: Stormeus on Jan 10, 2016, 09:06 PMWell, there is the fact that one of our clanmates was just demoted in part because of his behavior on VCCNR. If you don't want me there, though, so be it.
Didn't say you had to leave. In fact, your presence made me more aware of other admin's behavior(even though it should be apparent whether you're there or not) and I had no clue he was demoted. Like I stated twice above, I am open to constructive criticism. So, if you see me doing something unsavory, poke me on IRC and inform me and I will try to remedy it.
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: EK.IceFlake on Jan 11, 2016, 11:53 AM
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http://vkserver.big-forum.net/t2172-ne-crystalblue#26171
Title: Re: Just take a look at this
Post by: Stormeus on Jan 12, 2016, 06:17 AM
There was nothing left to discuss here anyway, I don't know what the point of digging this back up was. Locked.