Vice City: Multiplayer

VC:MP Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: DMWarrior on Feb 17, 2021, 04:03 PM

Title: Thoughts on re3 and reVC (miami branch)
Post by: DMWarrior on Feb 17, 2021, 04:03 PM
Currently, there are some projects trying to achieve the goal of reconstructing GTA III and GTA Vice City through reverse engineering: re3 (https://github.com/GTAmodding/re3) and reVC (miami branch) (https://github.com/GTAmodding/re3/tree/miami/). Development seems to be stable enough to the point people are using it to recompile and run these games on other platforms.

Could VC:MP take advantage of this in any way?

I can only imagine a few things of what could be achieved...

Any thoughts on this?
Title: Re: Thoughts on re3 and reVC (miami branch)
Post by: Xmair on Feb 18, 2021, 08:54 AM
QuoteGiven the possibility of compiling one single EXE file, VC:MP could use it's own custom "multiplayer-only" build instead of relying on DLLs.
This point is something which caught my interest but I don't reckon VCMP developers will implement this for legal reasons.
Title: Re: Thoughts on re3 and reVC (miami branch)
Post by: Sebastian on Feb 18, 2021, 04:00 PM
Quote from: Xmair on Feb 18, 2021, 08:54 AM
QuoteGiven the possibility of compiling one single EXE file, VC:MP could use it's own custom "multiplayer-only" build instead of relying on DLLs.
This point is something which caught my interest but I don't reckon VCMP developers will implement this for legal reasons.

This is the exact reason.
We have also discussed about it one day before this post
Title: Re: Thoughts on re3 and reVC (miami branch)
Post by: NicusorN5 on Feb 18, 2021, 05:34 PM
Quote from: Xmair on Feb 18, 2021, 08:54 AM
QuoteGiven the possibility of compiling one single EXE file, VC:MP could use it's own custom "multiplayer-only" build instead of relying on DLLs.
This point is something which caught my interest but I don't reckon VCMP developers will implement this for legal reasons.
R* devs don't give a crap about the 3D universe games anymore, to be honest. They are already milking enough money from GTA V / GTA Online
Title: Re: Thoughts on re3 and reVC (miami branch)
Post by: Radon on Feb 19, 2021, 09:24 AM
Would be interesting to see this implemented to Windows RT (which runs on ARM32), considering I have one. :)
Title: Re: Thoughts on re3 and reVC (miami branch)
Post by: DMWarrior on Feb 20, 2021, 10:03 AM
Quote from: Athanatos on Feb 18, 2021, 05:34 PM
Quote from: Xmair on Feb 18, 2021, 08:54 AM
QuoteGiven the possibility of compiling one single EXE file, VC:MP could use it's own custom "multiplayer-only" build instead of relying on DLLs.
This point is something which caught my interest but I don't reckon VCMP developers will implement this for legal reasons.
R* devs don't give a crap about the 3D universe games anymore, to be honest. They are already milking enough money from GTA V / GTA Online

...and they gave a crap. (https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2021/02/2021-02-19-take-two.md)

This reply (https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/jjbqrm/re3_reimplementation_of_grand_theft_auto_3_based/gaev4ed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) was the best reason I could find on why this happened. Looks like the project is considered to be derivative work instead of clean room design.

On the other hand, this takedown was requested from Take-Two, the same company which tried to takedown OpenIV and only backpedalled after they got caught and received a lot of bad press. So who knows? Maybe it's just scare tactics.

I have to agree with Xmair and Sebastian. After what just happened, that doesn't seem to worth the risk, at least for now.
Title: Re: Thoughts on re3 and reVC (miami branch)
Post by: NicusorN5 on Feb 20, 2021, 10:18 AM
Quote from: DMWarrior on Feb 20, 2021, 10:03 AM
Quote from: Athanatos on Feb 18, 2021, 05:34 PM
Quote from: Xmair on Feb 18, 2021, 08:54 AM
QuoteGiven the possibility of compiling one single EXE file, VC:MP could use it's own custom "multiplayer-only" build instead of relying on DLLs.
This point is something which caught my interest but I don't reckon VCMP developers will implement this for legal reasons.
R* devs don't give a crap about the 3D universe games anymore, to be honest. They are already milking enough money from GTA V / GTA Online

...and they gave a crap. (https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2021/02/2021-02-19-take-two.md)

Well, f*ck, I guess you're right. I wish I was right everytime...

Except it wasn't R*, ot was TakeTwo.