HOW A SERVER CAN BE OFFICIAL AND HOW A SERVER HAVE A PACK ACCOUNT
WTF IS PACK ACCOUNT? YOUR SERVER CAN BE OFFICIAL IF YOU HAVE THE FOLLOWING THINGS:-
1. MATURE ADMINS
2. UNIQUE FEATURES
3. COMMON SENSE
PS:- Sorry for the capslock, but that's how it feels when I see
@MEGAMIND's posts
we have
1. MATURE ADMINS
2. UNIQUE FEATURES
3. COMMON SENSE a bit
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Packard bell, 133 MHz.
No.
Quote from: KAKAN on Jul 23, 2016, 03:42 AMWTF IS PACK ACCOUNT? YOUR SERVER CAN BE OFFICIAL IF YOU HAVE THE FOLLOWING THINGS:-
1. MATURE ADMINS
2. UNIQUE FEATURES
3. COMMON SENSE
PS:- Sorry for the capslock, but that's how it feels when I see @MEGAMIND's posts
Currently you have to bribe stormeus to get a server official. VKs official server is not in the official list, while littlewhiteys is. VKs has more features (not bloatware), more players and very mature admins [some exceptions, but we will kick them when we found out xD]
It's easy, be AdTec.
or just be a VU instead
That advertise to be official lol
Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Jul 23, 2016, 01:22 PMor just be a VU instead
that works great though, even when you have a public script :D
easiest to make your server official
MEET MORE VU PLAYERS
Or be near to the dev
dev have no intrest in our local players
The devs have no interest in yet another <fill in gamemode> that's already on official list.
Be unique and have good management and a stable host and you might make it up there.
To be frank, one of the main reasons I personally don't like promoting servers is because people with the same gamemode start hounding me about why their server isn't official despite having more or less the same merits. Aside from Daydream RP (which I promoted due to its novel use of Dogecoin when released, along with the admins being smart), none of the servers repeat gamemodes.
If your server uses a gamemode that isn't already on the official list, it's likely because I either haven't been able to review it or my observation of the administrative staff or gamemode implementation raised concerns.
This thread is also a perfect example of why I hate touching anything involving the official list. If I promote a server that isn't yours, it must be due to nepotism. By itself, this is also an attitude that would make me reluctant to go anywhere near your servers.
Quote from: Stormeus on Jul 25, 2016, 10:05 PMTo be frank, one of the main reasons I personally don't like promoting servers is because people with the same gamemode start hounding me about why their server isn't official despite having more or less the same merits. Aside from Daydream RP (which I promoted due to its novel use of Dogecoin when released, along with the admins being smart), none of the servers repeat gamemodes.
If your server uses a gamemode that isn't already on the official list, it's likely because I either haven't been able to review it or my observation of the administrative staff or gamemode implementation raised concerns.
This thread is also a perfect example of why I hate touching anything involving the official list. If I promote a server that isn't yours, it must be due to nepotism. By itself, this is also an attitude that would make me reluctant to go anywhere near your servers.
Quote from: Thijn on Jul 25, 2016, 09:20 PMThe devs have no interest in yet another <fill in gamemode> that's already on official list.
Be unique and have good management and a stable host and you might make it up there.
WHICH seems like ... that it will take forever then lol were ok without official stuff...
Its a bad excuse, I only consider Argonath, MK's CTF ( and XAD ) as the only worth servers which were decided/promoted to be official, the rest are nothing special and are just hyped for no reason or reasons like "we have stats there"
VCMP doesn't give too much opportunities (yet) to bring something ever new, but if you're saying that a server can't be promoted because the gamemode its using is already 'known' then its a sad excuse of neglecting because both of them can make a huge difference in standards.
This is just my opinion, sure some people I can already imagine will get too hyped but yeah that's how things are.
Okay. If I make a hax0r server with scripts that help people in hax0r will it become official?
[I'm serious]
Yeah, I totally agree with Doom. Well, Doom has a XAD server which is far more better than the official leaked public XAD script running by WilSon.
And too, doom had a multi-gamemode server which, according to me, is the most unique server till now.
Well doom isn't in VU. So we don't care. Its not official.
Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Jul 26, 2016, 08:28 AMIts a bad excuse, I only consider Argonath, MK's CTF ( and XAD ) as the only worth servers which were decided/promoted to be official, the rest are nothing special and are just hyped for no reason or reasons like "we have stats there"
You forgot to mention Daydream that so far has the most unique features
Quote from: KAKAN on Jul 26, 2016, 08:37 AMYeah, I totally agree with Doom. Well, Doom has a XAD server which is far more better than the official leaked public XAD script running by WilSon.
And too, doom had a multi-gamemode server which, according to me, was the most unique server till now.
i guess even wilson used official leaked script his server has player count around 25-30 everyday while dooms server dont have same player count inspite of more features .
I'm really not convinced by some of the points in this thread because it's just a rehashing of "omg he's a VU and my script is better."
This is a short, semi-official guideline I wrote years ago on what we considered necessary for a server to become official:
http://archive.vc-mp.org/to2014/index.php?topic=5749.msg33744;theme=1#msg33744
Note the part that says having a unique server isn't, by itself, a deciding factor. If the server doesn't have an audience or has admins who feel the need to belittle other server owners and the development team with comments like
Quote from: EK.CrystalBlue on Jul 26, 2016, 09:11 AMWell doom isn't in VU. So we don't care. Its not official.
Or if their gamemode is something we wouldn't want to promote, we will hesitate to promote it.
Granted, we could be doing a better job to review servers on a continuing basis to determine what should be promoted and what shouldn't.
Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Jul 26, 2016, 08:28 AMIts a bad excuse, I only consider Argonath, MK's CTF ( and XAD ) as the only worth servers which were decided/promoted to be official
Omitting Daydream is disingenuous as Murdock said.
LW has been an official server for as long as I can remember. Say what you will about the DM gamemode itself, but you can't deny that they pioneered a connected community account system, C++ scripting, and were the second server to get a working achievement system only after myself. They're also still a reliably popular DM hub.
Empire Gaming's A/D only came out two months ago. Wilson's was able to fill the role left empty by XAD's shutdown almost immediately, the admin team isn't dumb, and they've been putting on community events to keep up the popularity of the mode and the competitive part of VC:MP.
You're without any proper reason calling my staff members dumb which is not very nice. Speaking of your guidelines you have a main point of unique gameplay. We all know that VCMP is a small community, there is no deny but when others servers aren't even given a priority then how come you will ever expect a server to grow further.
Having an account system which is connected between servers isn't a big deal, scripting a server in C++ might be but yeah
Quote from: Stormeus on Jul 26, 2016, 01:16 PMEmpire Gaming's A/D only came out two months ago.
If you're comparing the up-time of my server with Wilson's then he isn't running a server from years as well.
Quote from: Stormeus on Jul 26, 2016, 01:16 PMWilson's was able to fill the role left empty by XAD's shutdown almost immediately, the admin team isn't dumb, and they've been putting on community events to keep up the popularity of the mode and the competitive part of VC:MP.
Again, if you really want to fill up a gap then why not stick to the guidelines and give the chance to a proper server which offers unique gameplay instead.
Just because one doesn't know a server's staff
well doesn't mean their staff is bad/dumb.
You also can't deny the logics about being VU, VU is the most populated VCMP clan, and we all know that's what got his or any other well known server its popularity ( Again not every ).
Yet another reason for me to say that only Argonath, MK's CTF ( and XAD ) had people from almost everywhere.
I have stopped trying and I can clearly see how things go on here, I won't make any issues here but as I said its just how things are and turning faces doesn't help anyone. Stretching this further will make no point, its hopeless because things will never change and such things just ruin interest of many and disappoint many as well.
Yeah, I'm waiting for a faggot image showing other players than VU to prove me wrong, what else can be expected
IIRC LW has been an official server since pretty much the begining of VC:MP in 2005. 11 years as an official server, that's probably more years than some of the users on this forum have of life. Sure, LW's gamemode is not unique anymore, but I believe that's not the goal of the server anyway. The server focuses on vanilla VC:MP gameplay. No glitches, no teleports, no FPS over 30, no drive-by, etc... Say what you will about LW but I don't really see any other server like that at the moment. Also no matter how much you people try to bash LW, the fact still stands that's it's the most populated server at the moment. So that means players are still enjoying it, regardless of whether people think the server should be official or not.
@Doom_Kill3R My calling the A/D server staff "not dumb" was not a directed attack calling your staff dumb. My intention there was to say that they are also capable enough of running an official server. I'm sorry if you interpreted it as such.
Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Jul 26, 2016, 02:34 PMHaving an account system which is connected between servers isn't a big deal
I still think you're severely understating this.
Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Jul 26, 2016, 02:34 PMYeah, I'm waiting for a faggot image showing other players than VU to prove me wrong, what else can be expected
Ok.
NewK LWs had most of the players, now I see many players roaming around on VKs and EC. At night( according to our time ), you can see. LWs had about 3-4 players, while VKs had about 24-31 players and EC had about 8-12 players.
LWs has disabled 60 FPS, that was the cause of its downfall.
I actually think that other servers should get a chance.
Stormeus, if you don't have time, then why don't you pick some trusted players and give them the duty to select a server to become official or unofficial.
And you said, that official server must have a unique gamemode, then tell me, why did XE became official when LWs already had the DM GM?( I saw XE in official list in 0.3 )
I'm not against anybody, just speaking the truth, sorry if my words did hurt you :(
If back to topic EAD is not using PAC even being official. One way to use PAC is using ad_tec's hosting because of lags of DB connection.
Quote from: KAKAN on Jul 27, 2016, 08:42 AMNewK LWs had most of the players, now I see many players roaming around on VKs and EC. At night( according to our time ), you can see. LWs had about 3-4 players, while VKs had about 24-31 players and EC had about 8-12 players.
LWs has disabled 60 FPS, that was the cause of its downfall.
The statistics still say LW has the most players here (http://thijn.minelord.com/stats/vcmp/activity/)
Also XE is very different from LW. LW is also unique in its own way for the reasons I already said in my previous reply.
Quote from: vito on Jul 27, 2016, 08:54 AMIf back to topic EAD is not using PAC even being official.
Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Jul 26, 2016, 02:34 PMYou also can't deny the logics about being VU, VU is the most populated VCMP clan, and we all know that's what got his or any other well known server its popularity ( Again not every ).
@NewK[tagging you because quote isnt working]
The thijn stats doesnt even visible the VK server.
You can see here http://thijn.minelord.com/stats/vcmp/activity/ and write EK.CrystalBlue
It says im most active on... argonath :/
Well 99.9% vcmp time I spend on VKs, I only went to argonath to see how it is, once
I might be wrong but I tought Thijn only added active servers to his activity monitor.
What?
Let me show you some history of our player count
(https://forum.vc-mp.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FioO1m9u.png&hash=af3c0eefc93865d174651dfe65a59018b4eaf3e0)
http://www.game-state.com/46.105.184.128:8194/iframe/
I was wrong then. Your server currently has more players than LW. I see LW is no longer the most populated server as I tought. But I'm curious to see whether the server's playerbase will be maintained over the next few months though, after summer's over.
Correct, not even close.
(https://forum.vc-mp.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhbO1Sd5.png&hash=bb193aa78650e7001835c122b0fb035ecf17f8c2)
[ordered by player count]
Well I agreed wit
@Doom_Kill3R @Stormeus If it is all about having unique server then EG is Unique from every Game Modes now eg has xad mode too
Quote from: KAKAN on Jul 27, 2016, 08:42 AMStormeus, if you don't have time, then why don't you pick some trusted players and give them the duty to select a server to become official or unofficial.
I think I mentioned before that the beta testers would decide on servers to promote during the inactive period in 0.3.
Quote from: KAKAN on Jul 27, 2016, 08:42 AMAnd you said, that official server must have a unique gamemode, then tell me, why did XE became official when LWs already had the DM GM?( I saw XE in official list in 0.3 )
I wasn't around when XE and LW were promoted so I can't answer that for you.
WHAT? THIJN???
No wonder we're doomed.
(btw pl0x check the VKs server :( it usually tops the player count of VCMP)
Quote from: EK.CrystalBlue on Jul 27, 2016, 07:31 PM(btw pl0x check the VKs server :( it usually tops the player count of VCMP)
I have other objections to VK being made official, like this exchange.
Jul 25 10:01:28 <DON> ** [ EK.CrystalBlue ] Connecting From:[ United Arab Emirates, AE ].
Jul 25 10:02:26 <DON> ** >> EK.CrystalBlue Has Spawned !
Jul 25 10:02:26 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is online.
Jul 25 10:02:30 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !buyvip
Jul 25 10:02:34 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !buyvip 1
Jul 25 10:02:37 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !cmds
Jul 25 10:02:40 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !script
Jul 25 10:02:45 <DON> ** [ Moon ] Connecting From:[ Pakistan, PK ].
Jul 25 10:02:50 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> hy
Jul 25 10:03:02 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> hi D
Jul 25 10:03:06 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is offine.
Jul 25 10:03:10 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is online.
Jul 25 10:03:15 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is offine.
Jul 25 10:03:34 <DON> ** [ SfictioN ] Connecting From:[ Dominican Republic, DO ].
Jul 25 10:03:35 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> e.e
Jul 25 10:03:42 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is online.
Jul 25 10:03:53 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> oh shit
Jul 25 10:03:53 <DON> ** [ Lisandro ] Connecting From:[ Dominican Republic, DO ].
Jul 25 10:03:54 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> crystal reconnect
Jul 25 10:04:00 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> WHY DID THESE TWO HAVE TO JOIN
Jul 25 10:04:01 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !admins
Jul 25 10:04:12 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> ok
Jul 25 10:04:14 <DON> ** >> ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue Has Left The Server.(Quit)
Jul 25 10:04:15 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> idk lel
Jul 25 10:04:15 <DON> ** [ EK.CrystalBlue ] Connecting From:[ United Arab Emirates, AE ].
Jul 25 10:04:19 <DON> ** ID:[ 2 ] SfictioN >> Sfiction [email protected] Sfiction
Jul 25 10:04:29 <DON> ** >> EK.CrystalBlue Has Spawned !
Jul 25 10:04:29 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is online.
Jul 25 10:04:34 <DON> ** [ =RK=BliTz ] Connecting From:[ India, IN ].
Jul 25 10:04:37 <DON> ** ID:[ 2 ] SfictioN >> Sfiction [email protected] Sfiction
Jul 25 10:04:40 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !admins'
Jul 25 10:04:42 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !admins
Jul 25 10:04:45 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> oh f8
Jul 25 10:04:47 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> facebook.com/10008092.mds
Jul 25 10:04:50 <DON> ** ID:[ 2 ] SfictioN >> Sfiction [email protected] Sfiction
Jul 25 10:04:50 <DON> >> Auto-Muted SfictioN Reason [ Spamming ] Duration [ 30 Seconds ]
Jul 25 10:04:52 <DON> ** >> =RK=BliTz Has Spawned !
Jul 25 10:04:52 <DON> * =RK=BliTz is online.
Jul 25 10:04:57 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> blitz
Jul 25 10:05:00 <DON> ** ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz >> ?
Jul 25 10:05:01 <DON> ** >> Moon Has Spawned !
Jul 25 10:05:01 <DON> * Moon is online.
Jul 25 10:05:09 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> can you set me and m00n world to 2? we want to hack
Jul 25 10:05:16 <DON> ** ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz >> lol
Jul 25 10:05:20 <DON> >> Auto-Un-Muted SfictioN Reason [ 30 Seconds Passed ]
Jul 25 10:05:24 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> well we came to this server for a hack fight D
Jul 25 10:05:30 <DON> ** >> Lisandro Has Spawned !
Jul 25 10:05:30 <DON> * Lisandro is online.
Jul 25 10:05:34 <DON> ** ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz >> ,,,
Jul 25 10:05:37 <DON> ** ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz >> i cant set it
Jul 25 10:05:41 <DON> ** ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz >> only lvl 10 can
Jul 25 10:05:44 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> hmm
Jul 25 10:05:46 <DON> ** Admin =RK=BliTz teleported to EK.CrystalBlue
Jul 25 10:05:48 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !level blit
Jul 25 10:05:52 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> oh shet
Jul 25 10:05:55 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> ok show me what you got?
Jul 25 10:05:56 <DON> ** ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz >> no hacks pls
Jul 25 10:05:57 <DON> ** ID:[ 3 ] Lisandro >> HELLO
Jul 25 10:06:01 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> okay
Jul 25 10:06:06 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> then we will hack in another server D
Jul 25 10:06:11 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is offine.
Jul 25 10:06:13 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> na wait
Jul 25 10:06:17 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> we will here
Jul 25 10:06:19 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is online.
Jul 25 10:06:23 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> hmm
Jul 25 10:06:29 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> but this guy doesnt want us to hax
Jul 25 10:06:30 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> lel
Jul 25 10:06:37 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> we are just testing
Jul 25 10:06:44 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> we are not usin in a bad way
Jul 25 10:06:44 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !rules
Jul 25 10:06:51 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> idc
Jul 25 10:06:54 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> just do it
Jul 25 10:06:56 <DON> ** ID:[ 2 ] SfictioN >> 12345
Jul 25 10:07:00 <DON> ** >> Killer:[ Moon ] Killed:[ =RK=BliTz ] Weapon:[ Stubby ] Part:[ Body ]
Jul 25 10:07:02 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> lol
Jul 25 10:07:09 <DON> ** ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz >> brb
Jul 25 10:07:15 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> come on
Jul 25 10:07:30 <DON> * Lisandro is offine.
Jul 25 10:07:38 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> no hp hax okay?
Jul 25 10:07:44 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> lel try
Jul 25 10:07:47 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> to kill
Jul 25 10:07:52 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> bech
Jul 25 10:07:55 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> dont hp hax
Jul 25 10:07:58 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> otherwise we can never win'
Jul 25 10:08:02 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> just show everything you got
Jul 25 10:08:09 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> just trainer 2012 lol
Jul 25 10:08:18 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> i got another one
Jul 25 10:08:24 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> lol just 2?
Jul 25 10:08:24 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> wait
Jul 25 10:08:33 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> let me open it
Jul 25 10:08:34 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> wait do you know who am i?
Jul 25 10:08:36 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> i hab to use cheta engine for that
Jul 25 10:08:37 <DON> * Lisandro is online.
Jul 25 10:08:38 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> m00n
Jul 25 10:08:42 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> yes?
Jul 25 10:08:45 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> you are moon
Jul 25 10:08:46 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> lol cheat engine?
Jul 25 10:08:48 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> yah
Jul 25 10:08:50 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> CE 6.4
Jul 25 10:08:52 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> im the one who create hacks
Jul 25 10:08:53 <DON> ** ID:[ 3 ] Lisandro >> hi
Jul 25 10:08:55 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> =,=
Jul 25 10:08:57 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> me too -.-
Jul 25 10:09:03 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> idb
Jul 25 10:09:04 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> i make Trainer 2016.exe
Jul 25 10:09:06 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> from C#
Jul 25 10:09:08 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> i dont believe
Jul 25 10:09:11 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> -.-
Jul 25 10:09:13 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> cause you still use cheat engine
Jul 25 10:09:13 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> ask inghtmare
Jul 25 10:09:15 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> i gave it to him
Jul 25 10:09:28 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> hack your hp with cheat engine and i will kill you
Jul 25 10:09:32 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> ok wait
Jul 25 10:09:37 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is offine.
Jul 25 10:09:40 <DON> * Moon is offine.
Jul 25 10:09:41 <DON> ** >> ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz Has Left The Server.(Quit)
Jul 25 10:09:46 <DON> * Moon is online.
Jul 25 10:09:52 <DON> ** [ =RK=BliTz ] Connecting From:[ India, IN ].
Jul 25 10:10:03 <DON> ** >> =RK=BliTz Has Spawned !
Jul 25 10:10:03 <DON> * =RK=BliTz is online.
Jul 25 10:10:21 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is online.
Jul 25 10:10:21 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> do you know a hack no fall from bike?
Jul 25 10:10:24 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> no
Jul 25 10:10:26 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> btw
Jul 25 10:10:29 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> i also make an ntinject.exe
Jul 25 10:10:29 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> lol
Jul 25 10:10:35 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> using it can inject cleo or other asi'
Jul 25 10:10:36 <DON> Admin =RK=BliTz Banned (TempBan) Player: Moon
Jul 25 10:10:36 <DON> ** >> ID:[ 1 ] Moon Has Left The Server.(Kicked)
Jul 25 10:10:38 <DON> ** >> SfictioN Has Spawned !
Jul 25 10:10:38 <DON> * SfictioN is online.
Jul 25 10:10:39 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> lol
Jul 25 10:10:40 <DON> ** >> ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue Has Left The Server.(Quit)
Jul 25 10:10:55 <DON> ** [ Moon ] Connecting From:[ Pakistan, PK ].
Jul 25 10:10:58 <DON> Enforcing prior ban on:[Moon] Reason:[hacks]Time left:[20 Days, 0 Hours, 19 Minutes]
Jul 25 10:10:58 <DON> ** >> ID:[ 0 ] Moon Has Left The Server.(Kicked)
Jul 25 10:11:17 <DON> ** [ ES2 ] Connecting From:[ United Arab Emirates, AE ].
Jul 25 10:11:24 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] ES2 >> hello
Jul 25 10:11:57 <DON> Admin =RK=BliTz Banned (TempBan) Player: ES2
Jul 25 10:11:57 <DON> ** >> ID:[ 0 ] ES2 Has Left The Server.(Kicked)
Jul 25 10:12:25 <DON> ** >> ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz Has Left The Server.(Quit)
How is this remotely related to the VKs server? I never did anything like that there.
Quote from: EK.CrystalBlue on Jul 27, 2016, 08:09 PMHow is this remotely related to the VKs server? I never did anything like that there.
Simple. If you can't respect the rules of other people's servers, I consider that a problem when you're a scripter on another.
I wanna shift the discussion towards another point: Does it really matter to be official? I mean are there proofs that a server becoming official really makes any difference? Personally I never check that tab, and surely I don't go playing in a server just cause it's there, since Daydream has become official I don't see any increase in players or any changes at all. You just know that is one, and surely as a server owner you must be proud. Oh and the only difference might be having the topic stickied to the servers board, however that is also unlikely to give you advantages, since I seriously doubt any new player goes to see the server board before playing any server. Here is some constructive criticism: if you want your server to be more visible, just use common sense: make a decent script, give nice people admin rights and increase the interest towards your server via events and activities, and if after all your server doesn't become official, then maybe it's not worth / you don't need it. If you already have more players then any other server that is official or not, why wouldn't you be satisfied enough by such an achievement? Peace ;)
Quote from: Stormeus on Jul 27, 2016, 08:16 PMQuote from: EK.CrystalBlue on Jul 27, 2016, 08:09 PMHow is this remotely related to the VKs server? I never did anything like that there.
Simple. If you can't respect the rules of other people's servers, I consider that a problem when you're a scripter on another.
Sorry for this long/boring post and excuse me for any grammatical and/or spelling errors in this post.
Just to get the facts straight he is not technically a scripter on our server. He ported over our server to 0.4 1 year ago with our old vehicles, skins, locations, properties. He also made a basic register system, admin system and statistic system, that has been heavily re-written since then. The rest of the content was pretty much made by me and I would say that the content I made make up about 99.9 % of the server. He is credited as a server creator because our server would have probably never made the switch 0.4 if he didn't port it over first.
I agree that it might be unethical to have a hacker in such a high position in our staff, but he has never been much of a problem to us. He respects our rules and knows that he can't get around them and that I will school him if he tries to. I can't tell him what to do on other servers and he has been around for so long that I trust him. Our community is run by our management team consisting of 6 respected members. No changes to the rules or other major things can be decided by one person, we all decide things together.
With that said, my thoughts about this topic:
"Servers being run by an active developer are almost automatically added to the official server list, as the term "official" ultimately means servers that are promoted by the development team."
I am not a VC-MP developer so no points for us.
"The server has been a long standing member of the VC:MP community and is frequented by many players on a daily basis. The server has some sort of historical significance to VC:MP and is currently active and moderated."
We've been around for 4 years but has only really been popular since around 0.4 came out, but I don't think we have made any sort of historical significance to VC:MP that I am aware of at least. Our server is active, moderated and have decent player base with about 10-20 players in average online during daytime and can reach up to 30-40 during night time. I can't really predict how long that will last, but we have had a decent player base for almost 1 year.
"The server pushes the boundaries of what can be done in VC:MP, usually with the help of server plugins (Squirrel), and introduces new features that would not normally be possible."
I script in the boundaries of VC-MP and don't use any custom made plugins.
"The server offers unique gameplay than the usual fare of DM and is usually one of the first of its kind (see: community establishment). Thus, active servers of this kind may be nominated for official server status. That's not to say that all RP and race servers automatically meet this criterion. (See list of disqualifiers below.)"
Our server is a freeroaming server, where you have the option to:
1. DM.
2. Build your own world where you can add:
- 200 objects that only exists when someone is in your world.
- 100 pickups that only exists when someone is in your world. The pickup's can currently be: weapon pickups, teleport pickups, object move/rotation pickups, spawn pickups and message pickups.
- Your own rules for what applies in your property for default users up to level 4 users of your property. Some rules include: If player's can attack, driveby, bring vehicles, teleport in your property. You can also set the HP and armour for everyone that plays in your property.
I am sure I missed some details but that's pretty much it.
3. RPing is also possible due to the all the rules and control you can have in your own property world.
4. Minigames: You play the duel minigame, the taxi minigame, the shooting range minigame, the stunt minigame, the race minigame and the cat and mouse minigame and so on...
That's all I can come up with right now.
"There are no active administrators on the server to stop hackers, creating an unsatisfactory experience while playing."
We currently have 20 administrators on our server. Pretty much everyone visits it daily, but we could always get more admins in-game since we don't always have an admin in-game at all time.
"If the scripts are significantly broken, a server may be delisted."
I don't release any scripts without a lot of testing firsts. If I discover that something is broken, I correct it as soon as possible. But since we are always adding new content there is always a risk for something to break, but I am spending a lot of hours to make sure that doesn't happen.
"There may be administrators, but administrators that constantly harass players or actively encourage and wage war against other servers are not wanted and need not apply."
We don't allow harassment of other servers or players on our forum or server, but if we don't see it ourselves or receive the information from someone else then we can't really prevent it.
Final thoughts: It's up to the developers what they feel is the right thing to do. I am not sure if we are far way from becoming an official server, will never be one or are close to it. But one thing is for sure hard work pays off, one way or another. I as a scripter is just going to continue to take advise and suggestions from my community to make the server as best as it can be for all types of players and keep working hard.
I really appreciate everyone who has supported and tried to make our server official, but try to not bother the developers too much they got better things to do than to spend their time reviewing servers.
P.S. There are a lot servers out there with a good player base like EC & The basil server that deserves a chance to earn an spot on the list as well.
The main takeaway I've gotten from this thread is that the criteria for official status appear to be completely arbitrary to people in the community while not being entirely significant. As such, I'm just going to completely roll back the idea of official community servers and simply limit it to servers that are affiliated with the development and beta testing teams. That's the only thing that'll prevent this from being a recurring issue.
*crystal is planning to open his own masterlist*