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VC:MP Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: SuriAttacker on Nov 18, 2017, 09:21 PM

Title: Urgent request
Post by: SuriAttacker on Nov 18, 2017, 09:21 PM
Hi everyone, I'm sure that many of you are already aware of the scandal that is taking place in the VC:MP community nowadays. Players found a new way out to spoof their UID2 and evade their ban so easily, moreover they're ruining it for other players by using "hacks"/third party software(s)/trainer(s) to gain advantage over others. Banning these players is pretty much useless as they can spoof their UID2 within seconds and connect back with some other spoofed UID2 + VPN and so on they will continue with their activity.

With full respect towards the VC:MP Developers, I would like to request from the community side to the developers to find a new method to generate UID's that's even more secured than the current one(UID2), in order to make it harder for the people out there to tamper it.

Thank you for your time.

~SuriAttacker
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: ! on Nov 19, 2017, 07:37 AM
Quote from: SuriAttacker on Nov 18, 2017, 09:21 PMWith full respect towards the VC:MP Developers, I would like to request from the community side to the developers...
With full respect towards the topic starter the developers are dead long ago. :)
@SuriAttacker Your request is useless too.
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: DizzasTeR on Nov 19, 2017, 07:52 AM
Send these hackers to my server, would be cool to see how strong is their by-pass and no detection ;)
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: Darran on Nov 19, 2017, 08:30 AM
Quote from: SuriAttacker on Nov 18, 2017, 09:21 PMHi everyone, I'm sure that many of you are already aware of the scandal that is taking place in the VC:MP community nowadays. Players found a new way out to spoof their UID2 and evade their ban so easily, moreover they're ruining it for other players by using "hacks"/third party software(s)/trainer(s) to gain advantage over others. Banning these players is pretty much useless as they can spoof their UID2 within seconds and connect back with some other spoofed UID2 + VPN and so on they will continue with their activity.

With full respect towards the VC:MP Developers, I would like to request from the community side to the developers to find a new method to generate UID's that's even more secured than the current one(UID2), in order to make it harder for the people out there to tamper it.

Thank you for your time.

~SuriAttacker

agree 1+
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: Cool on Nov 19, 2017, 10:33 AM
Eat tatti @Suriattacker
Devs are dead
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: SuriAttacker on Nov 19, 2017, 12:44 PM
Quote from: zeus on Nov 19, 2017, 07:37 AM
Quote from: SuriAttacker on Nov 18, 2017, 09:21 PMWith full respect towards the VC:MP Developers, I would like to request from the community side to the developers...
With full respect towards the topic starter the developers are dead long ago. :)
@SuriAttacker Your request is useless too.
A little ill-mannered to say that my request is useless. Back in the days we used to say the same thing(" the devs are dead") though they were in-active for a long period, but they still had shown up and everyone was surprised. So instead of saying my request is useless you could have supported me on this one. :)
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: DizzasTeR on Nov 19, 2017, 01:05 PM
Well I supported you but you instead decided to not response @SuriAttacker.
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: SuriAttacker on Nov 19, 2017, 02:43 PM
Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Nov 19, 2017, 01:05 PMWell I supported you but you instead decided to not response @SuriAttacker.
I'm not in contact with any of them hackers. :(
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: NicusorN5 on Nov 21, 2017, 06:55 PM
VCMP Devs lost their interest in VCMP + VCMP domain expires at the beginning of 2018.
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: Xmair on Nov 22, 2017, 09:53 AM
Quote from: NicusorN5 on Nov 21, 2017, 06:55 PMVCMP Devs lost their interest in VCMP
They've a life and they've to study.
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: EK.IceFlake on Nov 22, 2017, 01:02 PM
However secure you make another UID, there is one fact you can't change: the server needs to trust the client to provide a valid UID. So even if you use an immutable source of making a UID, you can still edit the executable and make it send a hardcoded UID or send a UID from a file.
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: DizzasTeR on Nov 22, 2017, 01:41 PM
Also accept the fact that no system in the world can guarantee a 100% permanent security for ban evades. Every ban can be evaded, one way or another, you can't stop ban evades. You can make it strong, really strong but in the end, there's always that 0.1% possibility that you can't stop by which one can evade.
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: =RK=MarineForce on Nov 23, 2017, 08:57 PM
Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Nov 22, 2017, 01:41 PMAlso accept the fact that no system in the world can guarantee a 100% permanent security for ban evades. Every ban can be evaded, one way or another, you can't stop ban evades. You can make it strong, really strong but in the end, there's always that 0.1% possibility that you can't stop by which one can evade.

+1
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: umar4911 on Nov 24, 2017, 08:51 AM
There should a mac address finder as MAC address is always same
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: Mötley on Nov 24, 2017, 10:57 PM
Use mother board ID and BIOS version.

Or as @umar4911 said: Mac address, but with Motherboard ID

Only thing they could do after a while is buy new PC... I'm sure Developers might get a even better idea from this

What about you @SuriAttacker ?
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: KAKAN on Nov 25, 2017, 02:44 PM
Dafuq? Still with all of those securities, THE UID IS BEING TRANSFERRED TO THE SERVER, and so can be tampered with easily using something like Wireshark
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: vito_server on Nov 25, 2017, 04:12 PM
people getting in staff by social reasons, they have no idea how pc works this is reason why this bs about new 'uids' is shitted around.
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: SuriAttacker on Nov 26, 2017, 06:11 AM
Quote from: vito.vc-mp on Nov 25, 2017, 04:12 PMpeople getting in staff by social reasons, they have no idea how pc works this is reason why this bs about new 'uids' is shitted around.
It's always you with your negative comments on every single thing, seriously "go away", you're no use to the community with that attitude.
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: Darran on Nov 26, 2017, 06:52 AM
. Effective Ban System(by MAC address or hard  disk number e.t.c...) Possible???
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: vito_server on Nov 26, 2017, 06:55 AM
Quote from: SuriAttacker on Nov 26, 2017, 06:11 AM
Quote from: vito.vc-mp on Nov 25, 2017, 04:12 PMpeople getting in staff by social reasons, they have no idea how pc works this is reason why this bs about new 'uids' is shitted around.
It's always you with your negative comments on every single thing, seriously "go away", you're no use to the community with that attitude.
yes, community, attitude be nice and lick each other it's totally about people who creating silly requests like this one. I'm negative with retards only. They are not "every single thing" here yet. But looks its going to be in future.
Quote from: MaiYan on Nov 26, 2017, 06:52 AM. Effective Ban System(by MAC address or hard  disk number e.t.c...) Possible???
no. both is easy to change as well as just run vc-mp in virtual machine with full control of everything.
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: Darran on Nov 26, 2017, 07:00 AM
Quote from: vito.vc-mp on Nov 26, 2017, 06:55 AM
Quote from: SuriAttacker on Nov 26, 2017, 06:11 AM
Quote from: vito.vc-mp on Nov 25, 2017, 04:12 PMpeople getting in staff by social reasons, they have no idea how pc works this is reason why this bs about new 'uids' is shitted around.
It's always you with your negative comments on every single thing, seriously "go away", you're no use to the community with that attitude.
yes, community, attitude be nice and lick each other it's totally about people who creating silly requests like this one. I'm negative with retards only. They are not "every single thing" here yet. But looks its going to be in future.
Quote from: MaiYan on Nov 26, 2017, 06:52 AM. Effective Ban System(by MAC address or hard  disk number e.t.c...) Possible???
no. both is easy to change as well as just run vc-mp in virtual machine with full control of everything.

what about Serial number of Windows this is possible in vcmp???
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: vito_server on Nov 26, 2017, 07:02 AM
Quote from: MaiYan on Nov 26, 2017, 07:00 AMwhat about Serial number of Windows this is possible in vcmp???
there is no a magic pill to that, really. btw in poor countires (most players of vcmp) people using pirate copies of windows...
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: ! on Nov 26, 2017, 07:03 AM
Quote from: MaiYan on Nov 26, 2017, 07:00 AMwhat about Serial number of Windows this is possible in vcmp???

Quote from: vito.vc-mp on Nov 26, 2017, 06:55 AMno. both is easy to change as well as just run vc-mp in virtual machine with full control of everything.
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: vito_server on Nov 26, 2017, 03:33 PM
all information were given above in this topic by few people (EK.IceFlake KAKAN vito) already if so go blah blah in quotes and so on.
but apes can't read.
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: SuriAttacker on Nov 26, 2017, 04:13 PM
You're a waste of time. ;)
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: vito_server on Nov 26, 2017, 04:16 PM
Sure since you're are an idiot everything you can't understand is waste of time. Go play in admin commands in LW.
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: HunTinG on Nov 26, 2017, 05:17 PM
guys just go fuck yourselves, vcmp is ours now and you can't do shit about it. is it?
admins can just keep blacklisting ips, nothing more.
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: NicusorN5 on Nov 26, 2017, 05:35 PM
Quote from: HunTinG on Nov 26, 2017, 05:17 PMguys just go fuck yourselves, vcmp is ours now and you can't do shit about it. is it?
admins can just keep blacklisting ips, nothing more.
Oh well, other kid that keeps hacking vcmp & minecraft servers.
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: Darran on Nov 26, 2017, 05:42 PM
what about Make a client side anticheat for vcmp server. Or mass ban all VPN Ip ranges
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: NicusorN5 on Nov 26, 2017, 06:35 PM
Quote from: MaiYan on Nov 26, 2017, 05:42 PMwhat about Make a client side anticheat for vcmp server. Or mass ban all VPN Ip ranges
Anticheats can still be somehow passed. Banning can be evaded too. Atleast my old server was never hacked lul.
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: [Elv]Woodland on Nov 26, 2017, 08:19 PM
Quote from: SuriAttacker on Nov 26, 2017, 04:13 PMYou're a waste of time. ;)

I gotta agree to this since all his posts in this topic are useless loleto.

Quote from: HunTinG on Nov 26, 2017, 05:17 PMguys just go fuck yourselves, vcmp is ours now and you can't do shit about it. is it?
admins can just keep blacklisting ips, nothing more.

oh really mamita? you want me to show logs where you getting fucked up by cowdetective XDDD

ASN detect system???
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: KAKAN on Nov 27, 2017, 08:32 AM
@Thijn maybe a time for topic lock?
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: DizzasTeR on Nov 27, 2017, 10:10 AM
Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Nov 22, 2017, 01:41 PMAlso accept the fact that no system in the world can guarantee a 100% permanent security for ban evades. Every ban can be evaded, one way or another, you can't stop ban evades. You can make it strong, really strong but in the end, there's always that 0.1% possibility that you can't stop by which one can evade.

Why the fuck was there a need to get onto 3 pages after this, just seriously why? This place is hopeless.
Title: Re: Urgent request
Post by: ! on Nov 27, 2017, 05:48 PM
For the f**k sake get to the topic and stop ruining it.


Quote from: HunTinG on Nov 26, 2017, 05:17 PMguys just go fuck yourselves, vcmp is ours now and you can't do shit about it. is it?
admins can just keep blacklisting ips, nothing more.
Lol I can't stop laughing.