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#1
Off-Topic General / re-post to previous topic
Dec 25, 2017, 10:03 AM
http://forum.vc-mp.org/?topic=5431.msg38706#msg38706
Well, i didnt expect the topic will be locked with one sided information of the story. Personally, i dont think players will even care about this as it's thing of the past and has nothing to do with them but i guess it's worth to mention the real story. My purpose was to tell the real reasons he got kicked as many players had false information from 'someone'. I didnt want to to bring back the story of the pass to avoid conflicts but as MaiYan posted with inaccurate story, i guess i've right to it explain it. It's up to the players to believe.

Quote from: MaiYanlittle contribution  for ec
server name mine idea
ECD mine
sound system mine[from samp with sound effect]]
spree system mine [from samp with sound effect]
clan system mine [like xe ]
2 year dot com domain mine
10$ pr month for hosting [MK]GTA5 hosting service that time  we used
Just spend 200$ for EC

First of all I am a free Lancer and I've a lot of work to do and at that time, so I gave work to human to make a server for me and then I handed over the server to human and let me tell you I never logged in to VPS or panel, so stealing script is no where near to it. I'm having a team for freelancer work and I wish to make a new server, just for in hope of reviving this old game, not for my own mean. Now I don't want this discussion to extend further into any other drama, so let's drop it here. Human is happy his way ruling over EC and with his contributions and I'm on my own way and I know I'm working and will work hard to make my own new serverr

The server was first started by me and CrXy in late 2012 and was closed at mid 2014. The server name was LF( i forgot the exact name ) and the EC name was suggested by [NYB]HONEY_SINGH which was manager at that time before he get demoted. Basically, it was his idea unless MaiYan is him or used his nick, MaiYan just said they are cousin. Later, some time after EC was closed, MaiYan( which was also a friend of mine ) asked me a lot of time to re-open EC. We finally did it somewhere in 2015 if im not wrong. So basically, i worked in handling server/scripting/forum - anything related to server and he will host them. Well, i've asked him many times whether he really want it because it might cost a lot & moreover i was very busy with studies, but as he kept with his decision so i just agreed - It was not really 2 years. I dont know how much he paid, but so far..only few things he said right. Even though, it is still a very big of contribution, so thanks to him. We also had few deals( including 'he must not use script without my permission' ) and once it's re-opened we both became owner and had equal right until he abused the right & got kicked cuz of power abuses which cant be avoided( i've explained this in the previous topic ). About the EC script, MaiYan..i got PM from bot everytime someone start the script & i got it multiple time from the host and your friends's subnet after the incident. I still remember you gave it to someone to fix the compiled script. Btw, we didnt have SAMP sound in EC, the sound were from CS 1.6 not SAMP, but im not sure who suggested it. Many of EC features were suggested by players. Other than that, he's actually still one of the big contributors for EC( with his efforts, host & suggestions ), im not against it & no one can disagree on that. I've never said he's not part of the previous EC team, i even called him 'owner' in my previous post( that already cleared out his status ) as we both had equal right in the previous server. He got kicked because the staff had no other option to overcome the problem. Once again, i wish you luck for your server.

There are many more things happened between the time that caused issues, which i dont think necessary to post because it will make the topic longer, more dramas and more conflicts due to inacurate informations as it happened quite long ago. That's what i was trying to avoid, by not including the story in previous topic. I'll also lock this topic, because this topic just explain and fix the miss information from MaiYan's post( maybe it was unintentional as it happened long ago and he tried opening/joining multiple servers after that ) & it's up to players to believe which one.
#2
Off-Topic General / Re: Wow really
Dec 25, 2017, 07:59 AM
A lot of things happened in past 3 years. Im not planning to tell them here, it's not necessary for players to know & for me to write it. I believe the old forum is enough to tell you who first started it. I just told & cleared out the reasons MaiYan got kicked to clear out the confusion because it had never been told outside EC forum except the one made by 'someone else' shared in FB and forums that is one sided and not true. So the players who are too eager to share something made own speculations and shared wrong informations without knowing anything that really happened. In short version of my previous post, it was the problem inside staff caused by power abuse done by MaiYan as he treated the server as a private server where he can do anything he want & no one should be against him, it affected both players and admins because some players are treated special by him and admin discussion are ignored many times. Maybe it was not his intention, but we had no option either because he didnt accept majority's view & none of the admins can stop him as i said in my previous post so the only option left was to kick him out. That's all the players need to know. Maybe he learnt something and now has better 'social skill' in @ words..

The more i post, the longer it will become & i dont have time for that so please proceed with the real topic instead. Dont sharing something that you cant confirm or sure..
#3
Off-Topic General / Re: Wow really
Dec 25, 2017, 04:55 AM
Quote from: @ on Dec 24, 2017, 04:30 PMThe popularity is based on social connections not a code. MaiYan really was one of owners of EC but got kicked because of lack of his socialskills (corruption is normal in vc-mp but he did not know how to use it). And now as you can see new owners of EC can clean up the history.
Talking about history, the server was first started by me and CrXy on the end of 2012, before it got closed on 2014:
http://lfvcmp.forums1.net/forum
http://lfvcmp.forums1.net/t2-server-admins

The real reason MaiYan was left alone/kicked because he abused his power as owner( there were 2 owners, we had same right ) but he abused his power to save/unban his friends whenever they get banned and do whatever he want, not because his social skill. He ignored most, if not all of admin discussions and take everything his way. That's not how things supposed to work if he wants to work in group. He was ruling like a dictator & most of the staff members can see it. He removed posts and levels of admins when they try to speak for themself against him, including mine in forum after i chose to be on admin side. So, the admins decided to leave him alone and open another EC with my help( well, it's a great lesson for him to not abuse his power ). Once he was alone, he shared wrong information/news & he 'stole' and try to start server with EC scripts( which was made by me as EC dev ) from VPS, im not saying EC is the best script but we had a deal that EC script must not be used without my permission & he broke it. However, he was not able to do much because i had removed real script and uploaded older, bugged & compiled script earlier before the problem get worst, so he was not able to do much with it. After all, we are the one who got blamed and he's treated as the innocent one. Well, i dont blame players for that..most of things he did were mostly seen by admins only & players might not even know because it's done quietly & he already removed everything against him from previous EC forum so there were no traces. That's how it went, im not saying the current EC management is the best, there are weakness..etc & many of us are busy due to personal stuff( works/studies ) including me & that's the reason i chose to help the server in scripts only, when i was asked to join and help EC.

I just came to clear things out because seems like someone had posted wrong & fake informations, alot - not only in forums but also on facebook. I've never take anything in this game personally & im not much active due to personal stuff so i rarely speak up. I've no personal problem with anyone, including MaiYan & i wish him luck for his server.
#4
Applications / Re: Server Host
Mar 10, 2016, 11:09 AM
Quote from: Human on Mar 10, 2016, 09:18 AMFirst Name:Human
Last Name:EC-Developer
Email Address:[email protected]
Server Name:Grand Theft Auto European Gamers
Port:8100
Slots(10-100):50
It is not me..possibly he is Neeraj:

http://forum.vc-mp.org/?topic=2068.msg15364#msg15364
First Name: Neeraj
Last Name: Kumar
Email Address:[email protected]
Server Name: [0.4]NeW Vice FighTing Server DM+MM
Port: 8082
Slots(10-100): 55
#5
player.SetAlpha( 0, 5000 );For 5 seconds.
#6
He meant that the donors will get 100 ECDs for every $1 cash donated.
Seems like you are confused about it, anyway i've edited the post to clear this..