DDoS

Started by Striker, Feb 23, 2016, 12:56 PM

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Striker

Well, i've heard many VPS being, DDoS! for servers, and forum, but I just real want to know that is it possible to DDoS, a normal local host computers SERVER? o.0 and CRASH it?
since 0.3z PAWN servers were able to be crashed. but still i'm confused with SQL, is it possible to DDoS a local host server? is their anything we could do to save our local host server?

MatheuS

Yes, it is possible. I do not know if it is possible to defend himself, but I think not.
if( !sucess ) tryAgain();
Thanks to the VCMP community. It was the happiest period of my life.

KAKAN

I never got my server DDoS'd nor I ever heard of any server being DDoS'd in 0.4
Dunno, it would protect you or not, but someone told me to use this if you get many DDoS attacks:-
http://www.fortguard.com/ddosmonitor.html
or the downloads link:-
http://www.fortguard.com/download.html
oh no

DizzasTeR

Quote from: KAKAN on Feb 23, 2016, 01:25 PMI never got my server DDoS'd nor I ever heard of any server being DDoS'd in 0.4

Sure? Had 12 players and someone DDoS'ed EG a day ago and caused us to timeout and eventually crash the server. It happened later as well that alot of players timed out and had pings like 1k.

Striker

Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Feb 23, 2016, 01:27 PM
Quote from: KAKAN on Feb 23, 2016, 01:25 PMI never got my server DDoS'd nor I ever heard of any server being DDoS'd in 0.4

Sure? Had 12 players and someone DDoS'ed EG a day ago and caused us to timeout and eventually crash the server. It happened later as well that alot of players timed out and had pings like 1k.
So, is their any basic solution ? can't VCMP provide us security ?

Striker

Sorry, but i'm really kinda afraid of DDoS, can it damage PC much than VPS? is it really harmful, for Computers, and net?? how to fight against it?

Stormeus

Quote from: Striker on Feb 23, 2016, 01:43 PM
Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Feb 23, 2016, 01:27 PM
Quote from: KAKAN on Feb 23, 2016, 01:25 PMI never got my server DDoS'd nor I ever heard of any server being DDoS'd in 0.4

Sure? Had 12 players and someone DDoS'ed EG a day ago and caused us to timeout and eventually crash the server. It happened later as well that alot of players timed out and had pings like 1k.
So, is their any basic solution ? can't VCMP provide us security ?

A DoS attack is typically one person with a flooding program that can easily be stopped by a decent firewall configuration.

A DDoS attack is an entire network of people flooding your server that can't easily be mitigated without a lot of money.

This isn't an issue limited to VC:MP. As a matter of fact, securing against denial of service (DoS) attacks and distribute DoS (DDoS) is completely impossible for us to "fix" in our server. You, the server owner, are responsible for it at the network level. This is why you virtually never see VRocker's servers go down — he has aggressive firewall policies to prevent this kind of thing.

Also, I highly doubt anyone in this community has the money or resources to mount an actual DDoS attack. In probably >99% of cases it's just one person, which makes it a DoS (NOT a DDoS) and means your VPS or your server host has bad firewall policies.

Quote from: Striker on Feb 23, 2016, 02:20 PMSorry, but i'm really kinda afraid of DDoS, can it damage PC much than VPS? is it really harmful, for Computers, and net?? how to fight against it?

A DoS attack causes no permanent damage to your computer or network. All it does is temporarily prevent your server from being accessed because it can't handle all the packets being sent to it.

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@Stormeus Everyone seems to make that mistake. I can't remember how many videos on YT titled "DDoS" that attack from one machine and then try to access the attacked service from the same machine and be like "see? no work!". And I'm like: well no sh!t. how can it work if your machine is busy flooding the target you dumb f*.
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Striker

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Quote from: Stormeus on Feb 23, 2016, 02:59 PM
Quote from: Striker on Feb 23, 2016, 01:43 PM
Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Feb 23, 2016, 01:27 PM
Quote from: KAKAN on Feb 23, 2016, 01:25 PMI never got my server DDoS'd nor I ever heard of any server being DDoS'd in 0.4

Sure? Had 12 players and someone DDoS'ed EG a day ago and caused us to timeout and eventually crash the server. It happened later as well that alot of players timed out and had pings like 1k.
So, is their any basic solution ? can't VCMP provide us security ?

A DoS attack is typically one person with a flooding program that can easily be stopped by a decent firewall configuration.

A DDoS attack is an entire network of people flooding your server that can't easily be mitigated without a lot of money.

This isn't an issue limited to VC:MP. As a matter of fact, securing against denial of service (DoS) attacks and distribute DoS (DDoS) is completely impossible for us to "fix" in our server. You, the server owner, are responsible for it at the network level. This is why you virtually never see VRocker's servers go down — he has aggressive firewall policies to prevent this kind of thing.

Also, I highly doubt anyone in this community has the money or resources to mount an actual DDoS attack. In probably >99% of cases it's just one person, which makes it a DoS (NOT a DDoS) and means your VPS or your server host has bad firewall policies.

Quote from: Striker on Feb 23, 2016, 02:20 PMSorry, but i'm really kinda afraid of DDoS, can it damage PC much than VPS? is it really harmful, for Computers, and net?? how to fight against it?

A DoS attack causes no permanent damage to your computer or network. All it does is temporarily prevent your server from being accessed because it can't handle all the packets being sent to it.
he has aggressive firewall policies to prevent this kind of thing.Well, so do you have any kind of Great firewall services in your mind(I guess i'm being, so silly asking this) however my IP is always likely changed, so does DoS only affect the IP ?
Even thou turning my Firewall on blocks my VCMP server to be hosted -_- what can, I do with it?

Striker

Quote from: Doom_Kill3R on Feb 23, 2016, 01:27 PM
Quote from: KAKAN on Feb 23, 2016, 01:25 PMI never got my server DDoS'd nor I ever heard of any server being DDoS'd in 0.4

Sure? Had 12 players and someone DDoS'ed EG a day ago and caused us to timeout and eventually crash the server. It happened later as well that alot of players timed out and had pings like 1k.
@Doom_Kill3R so, how did you actually fixed it, ._. I guess you are taking Darke's host.
Dos, for me seems, so scary : [ like a Ghost lol.

Stormeus

Quote from: Striker on Feb 23, 2016, 06:17 PMWell, so do you have any kind of Great firewall services in your mind(I guess i'm being, so silly asking this) however my IP is always likely changed, so does DoS only affect the IP ?
Even thou turning my Firewall on blocks my VCMP server to be hosted -_- what can, I do with it?

Linux has a built-in firewall system called iptables.

Windows has an inferior firewall system to be honest but you could try playing with Windows Firewall.

ysc3839

As far as I know, DDoS can't crash a server. It uses up your server's network bandwith and the server can't communicate with client. And I know 0.3 Pawn server crash is a BOF(buffer over flow) vulnerability.

Striker

Quote from: Stormeus on Feb 23, 2016, 07:16 PM
Quote from: Striker on Feb 23, 2016, 06:17 PMWell, so do you have any kind of Great firewall services in your mind(I guess i'm being, so silly asking this) however my IP is always likely changed, so does DoS only affect the IP ?
Even thou turning my Firewall on blocks my VCMP server to be hosted -_- what can, I do with it?

Linux has a built-in firewall system called iptables.

Windows has an inferior firewall system to be honest but you could try playing with Windows Firewall.
Alright, Stormeus! I keep my faith in you.