Vcmp-desync bug/false ban

[syne]

Well well...So today i'm hereby to report a case in which some of you might have some experience on, So basically that guy whose name is "Gohan" reported me with this video https://youtu.be/lAM_os-7_Bs saying it's hp hack, i'm well aware of myself that i haven't used anything as such, and what's funny about that report, is that i got killed by another person like 5 seconds after that happened, evidence : ,

so how can that be "hp hack" by any chance...,

anyhow i posted an unban app with a few evidences that have similarities to this case and imply the case to be a sync/glitch,

evidences > https://youtu.be/YR5qJA_7Lrg , https://youtu.be/zA06sMwaodY , https://youtu.be/CS2MF8DgJm0 (  00:20 )

https://forum.vc-mp.org/?topic=8266.0


in which they denied cuz they're just biased towards KF members, therefore the unban appeal was denied, and before that we had a convo with Wilson (the one who banned me within second without hesitation or waiting to hear my explanation) as showing in these pics >

1 - see how unsure he was when he banned me, that if it's a hack or not, >



2 - Juan said he's the only one that's handling syne's case and that it's up to him whether to unban me or not



3 - Now he starts lying



4 - imagine banning someone while knowing that he's innocent ( he is making excuses about the other staff ) but juan himself said that wilson was the only one handling the case and that it's up to him whether to unban or not...



5 - see how bias his decision is



5 - at the end he started being a dick and threatening



then left the group without solving the case...

anyways, let's get back to Gohan's case, that player was banned before for using hacks and still i think he uses something to this day, it's some kind of modification for animation, and it affects the players ur shooting as well,



that's him and his dirty past of using hacks, well tbh, i haven't used hacks since 2016 (trainer 2012), and after that i never used anything in my entire vcmp carrier, neither got ban for any hacks usage, so for someone like him who's well known to be a hacker to report a clean player who never got ban for hacks in his vcmp carrier is just pure bs...

he even reported Gynla for something similar, and the report got denied after a lot of explanations,



idk what happened to that forum, i would've included the video of his report which is clearly showing the modifications Gohan uses


anyhow, here's a recent video that Gohan semt sus in >

https://youtu.be/Wvm5iva3zE8

and yet, that player's gameplay is always suspicious, sometimes his animation moves weird, and sometimes he doesn't receive damage at all, he is in no position to report someone with a 5 seconds video...




most of the admins found it so biased and funny how they banned me with such proof,

their bias is insane...

anyways they did a good job to ruin my reputation without a clear proof


them dealing with the report biasedly just shows how desperate they was to ban a KF member, especially after GerZ made this video
https://youtu.be/xwG8ASTohro

which triggered a lot of VU members,

anyhow i would like to get your opinion on this case, and if  any of you experienced this bug before.

[DizzasTeR]

Just 2 questions

- Why is it always the same people who happen to stumble upon this, some KFs, some RTs, ON members etc, why not others?
- What the fuck is this?: https://youtu.be/4wgcvwGuB1M, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXngE0PZCHU (This happens every damn day lmao, for years now, probably someone has a clip of this happening on me as well)

Also, I've seen shit like this numerous times, I know it has come after 04rel004 or something that boosted all of you unstable internet players to the skies (notice that I'm saying unstable not high ping), its hilarious how badly some of the people just lag in VCMP despite having 130~ pings, its absurd, no kind of jitter system is gonna help detect it, no kind of ping limiters will help it.

Personally speaking, this is just a straight up "lagger" situation to me, I often kick the player infront if he absorbs a shot like that for "fix lag", unstable internet is far worse than having a stable 400 ping.

:edit: One more thing I forgot to mention/ask

In what world exists a lag that is one-sided? If IM LAGGING then YOU SHOULD BE LAGGING FOR ME as well
Nowadays, its as if I'm not lagging for you but you are lagging for me. I don't get this bs honestly, but yeah the sync is definitely out of the window right now for unstable internet players. Before if you'd lag, it would hurt both sides, nowadays, it seems like Theory of Evolution might actually have a valid proof because laggers have evolved to the point where they lag for everyone else, but everyone else doesn't lag for them.

tl;dr Imagine DM'ing in VCMP in 2021 with crap like above ^

[syne]

Just 2 questions

- Why is it always the same people who happen to stumble upon this, some KFs, some RTs, ON members etc, why not others?
- What the fuck is this?: https://youtu.be/4wgcvwGuB1M, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXngE0PZCHU (This happens every damn day lmao, for years now, probably someone has a clip of this happening on me as well)

Also, I've seen shit like this numerous times, I know it has come after 04rel004 or something that boosted all of you unstable internet players to the skies (notice that I'm saying unstable not high ping, its hilarious how badly some of the people just lag in VCMP despite having 130~ pings, its absurd, no kind of jitter system is gonna help detect it, no kind of ping limiters will help it.

Personally speaking, this is just a straight up "lagger" situation to me, I often kick the player infront if he absorbs a shot like that for "fix lag", unstable internet is far worse than having a stable 400 ping.

:edit: One more thing I forgot to mention/ask

In what world exists a lag that is one-sided? If IM LAGGING then YOU SHOULD BE LAGGING FOR ME as well
Nowadays, its as if I'm not lagging for you but you are lagging for me. I don't get this bs honestly, but yeah the sync is definitely out of the window right now for unstable internet players. Before if you'd lag, it would hurt both sides, nowadays, it seems like Theory of Evolution might actually have a valid proof because laggers have evolved to the point where they lag for everyone else, but everyone else doesn't lag for them.

tl;dr Imagine DM'ing in VCMP in 2021 with crap like above ^

It happens all the time with everyone, and now they're acting as if it never happened before, just so they can ban me falsely,

Gohan himself is well known to be a laggot who plays with 300 ping and unstable fps, and yet they accepted a 5 seconds video of him not registering a shot at someone...jeez..., and still i got killed like 5 seconds after that happened, And they call it "Hp hack" lmao... i don't get their logic, imagine banning someone that way just because you have some personal issues with him

EDIT :

very nice server they got there lmao, i blame myself for joining there in the first place,  even fulton doesn't play there anymore after
they accused him of hacks, joining a server where the admins are against ur clan/you is just bs...

[Spiller]

I'm not sure if that false ban case is relevant to this forum. But since you mentioned the Gynla case I'd like to drop a few cents. I am convinced that no one is interested here about who is biased towards whom and skimming through a bunch of private messages.

First of all, if you think that was a bug, report it in the correct section along with a plausible way to reproduce it, the videos you showed are completely different to what apparently you were banned for.


And lets not compare a low latency player to a high latency player when you are talking in terms of sync and damage in two different scenarios.

You literally got hit in the video, you were pushed back by the shotgun and received no damage at all, while there was no knockback in Gynla's case that occurred at TDW (which is similar to the other videos that you showed). Whereas I'd consider the video on Gohan pretty normal on a perfect day in VCMP given that he has a 250+ ping.

That, my friend, is a pretty rare bug that happens sometimes where you shoot a player out of his FOV and bullets never appear on their screen. It took me an ugly amount of time to reproduce it back in the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxK_gnPCm8Y

Here is a link to that topic, another identical case is also listed there.


I'm not going to comment on who used a hack, what reputation one stands at and who did what in the past because I'll end up with a book equivalent in length to Sun Tzu's Art of War if I ever came to it. But it seems pretty clear to me that no civilized person would perform such a stunt that you did right here.

You won't achieve anything trying to "expose" someone here. And no, I don't think such a bug exists, if you get knocked back you'll receive damage unless you are immune through a hack or the script.

Also, DizzasTeR summed up the lag situation pretty nice already.

Well Said, Locked (Dizz)