Server Official/pac

[EK.IceFlake]

@NewK
[tagging you because quote isnt working]
The thijn stats doesnt even visible the VK server.
You can see here http://thijn.minelord.com/stats/vcmp/activity/ and write EK.CrystalBlue
It says im most active on... argonath :/
Well 99.9% vcmp time I spend on VKs, I only went to argonath to see how it is, once

[NewK]

I might be wrong but I tought Thijn only added active servers to his activity monitor.

[EK.IceFlake]

What?
Let me show you some history of our player count

http://www.game-state.com/46.105.184.128:8194/iframe/

[NewK]

I was wrong then. Your server currently has more players than LW. I see LW is no longer the most populated server as I tought. But I'm curious to see whether the server's playerbase will be maintained over the next few months though, after summer's over.

[EK.IceFlake]

Correct, not even close.

[ordered by player count]

[Finch Real]

Well I agreed wit @Doom_Kill3R
@Stormeus If it is all about having unique server then EG is Unique from every Game Modes now eg has xad mode too

[Stormeus]

Stormeus, if you don't have time, then why don't you pick some trusted players and give them the duty to select a server to become official or unofficial.

I think I mentioned before that the beta testers would decide on servers to promote during the inactive period in 0.3.

And you said, that official server must have a unique gamemode, then tell me, why did XE became official when LWs already had the DM GM?( I saw XE in official list in 0.3 )

I wasn't around when XE and LW were promoted so I can't answer that for you.

[EK.IceFlake]

WHAT? THIJN???
No wonder we're doomed.
(btw pl0x check the VKs server it usually tops the player count of VCMP)

[Stormeus]

(btw pl0x check the VKs server it usually tops the player count of VCMP)

I have other objections to VK being made official, like this exchange.

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Jul 25 10:01:28 <DON> ** [ EK.CrystalBlue ] Connecting From:[ United Arab Emirates, AE ].
Jul 25 10:02:26 <DON> ** >> EK.CrystalBlue Has Spawned !
Jul 25 10:02:26 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is online.
Jul 25 10:02:30 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !buyvip
Jul 25 10:02:34 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !buyvip 1
Jul 25 10:02:37 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !cmds
Jul 25 10:02:40 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !script
Jul 25 10:02:45 <DON> ** [ Moon ] Connecting From:[ Pakistan, PK ].
Jul 25 10:02:50 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> hy
Jul 25 10:03:02 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> hi D
Jul 25 10:03:06 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is offine.
Jul 25 10:03:10 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is online.
Jul 25 10:03:15 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is offine.
Jul 25 10:03:34 <DON> ** [ SfictioN ] Connecting From:[ Dominican Republic, DO ].
Jul 25 10:03:35 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> e.e
Jul 25 10:03:42 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is online.
Jul 25 10:03:53 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> oh shit
Jul 25 10:03:53 <DON> ** [ Lisandro ] Connecting From:[ Dominican Republic, DO ].
Jul 25 10:03:54 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> crystal reconnect
Jul 25 10:04:00 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> WHY DID THESE TWO HAVE TO JOIN
Jul 25 10:04:01 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !admins
Jul 25 10:04:12 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> ok
Jul 25 10:04:14 <DON> ** >> ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue Has Left The Server.(Quit)
Jul 25 10:04:15 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> idk lel
Jul 25 10:04:15 <DON> ** [ EK.CrystalBlue ] Connecting From:[ United Arab Emirates, AE ].
Jul 25 10:04:19 <DON> ** ID:[ 2 ] SfictioN >> Sfiction [email protected] Sfiction
Jul 25 10:04:29 <DON> ** >> EK.CrystalBlue Has Spawned !
Jul 25 10:04:29 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is online.
Jul 25 10:04:34 <DON> ** [ =RK=BliTz ] Connecting From:[ India, IN ].
Jul 25 10:04:37 <DON> ** ID:[ 2 ] SfictioN >> Sfiction [email protected] Sfiction
Jul 25 10:04:40 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !admins'
Jul 25 10:04:42 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !admins
Jul 25 10:04:45 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> oh f8
Jul 25 10:04:47 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> facebook.com/10008092.mds
Jul 25 10:04:50 <DON> ** ID:[ 2 ] SfictioN >> Sfiction [email protected] Sfiction
Jul 25 10:04:50 <DON> >> Auto-Muted SfictioN Reason [ Spamming ] Duration [ 30 Seconds ]
Jul 25 10:04:52 <DON> ** >> =RK=BliTz Has Spawned !
Jul 25 10:04:52 <DON> * =RK=BliTz is online.
Jul 25 10:04:57 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> blitz
Jul 25 10:05:00 <DON> ** ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz >> ?
Jul 25 10:05:01 <DON> ** >> Moon Has Spawned !
Jul 25 10:05:01 <DON> * Moon is online.
Jul 25 10:05:09 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> can you set me and m00n world to 2? we want to hack
Jul 25 10:05:16 <DON> ** ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz >> lol
Jul 25 10:05:20 <DON> >> Auto-Un-Muted SfictioN Reason [ 30 Seconds Passed ]
Jul 25 10:05:24 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> well we came to this server for a hack fight D
Jul 25 10:05:30 <DON> ** >> Lisandro Has Spawned !
Jul 25 10:05:30 <DON> * Lisandro is online.
Jul 25 10:05:34 <DON> ** ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz >> ,,,
Jul 25 10:05:37 <DON> ** ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz >> i cant set it
Jul 25 10:05:41 <DON> ** ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz >> only lvl 10 can
Jul 25 10:05:44 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> hmm
Jul 25 10:05:46 <DON> ** Admin =RK=BliTz teleported to EK.CrystalBlue
Jul 25 10:05:48 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !level blit
Jul 25 10:05:52 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> oh shet
Jul 25 10:05:55 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> ok show me what you got?
Jul 25 10:05:56 <DON> ** ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz >> no hacks pls
Jul 25 10:05:57 <DON> ** ID:[ 3 ] Lisandro >> HELLO
Jul 25 10:06:01 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> okay
Jul 25 10:06:06 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> then we will hack in another server D
Jul 25 10:06:11 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is offine.
Jul 25 10:06:13 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> na wait
Jul 25 10:06:17 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> we will here
Jul 25 10:06:19 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is online.
Jul 25 10:06:23 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> hmm
Jul 25 10:06:29 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> but this guy doesnt want us to hax
Jul 25 10:06:30 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> lel
Jul 25 10:06:37 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> we are just testing
Jul 25 10:06:44 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> we are not usin in a bad way
Jul 25 10:06:44 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> !rules
Jul 25 10:06:51 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> idc
Jul 25 10:06:54 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> just do it
Jul 25 10:06:56 <DON> ** ID:[ 2 ] SfictioN >> 12345
Jul 25 10:07:00 <DON> ** >> Killer:[ Moon ] Killed:[ =RK=BliTz ] Weapon:[ Stubby ] Part:[ Body ]
Jul 25 10:07:02 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> lol
Jul 25 10:07:09 <DON> ** ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz >> brb
Jul 25 10:07:15 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> come on
Jul 25 10:07:30 <DON> * Lisandro is offine.
Jul 25 10:07:38 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> no hp hax okay?
Jul 25 10:07:44 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> lel try
Jul 25 10:07:47 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> to kill
Jul 25 10:07:52 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> bech
Jul 25 10:07:55 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> dont hp hax
Jul 25 10:07:58 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> otherwise we can never win'
Jul 25 10:08:02 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> just show everything you got
Jul 25 10:08:09 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> just trainer 2012 lol
Jul 25 10:08:18 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> i got another one
Jul 25 10:08:24 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> lol just 2?
Jul 25 10:08:24 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> wait
Jul 25 10:08:33 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> let me open it
Jul 25 10:08:34 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> wait do you know who am i?
Jul 25 10:08:36 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> i hab to use cheta engine for that
Jul 25 10:08:37 <DON> * Lisandro is online.
Jul 25 10:08:38 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> m00n
Jul 25 10:08:42 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> yes?
Jul 25 10:08:45 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> you are moon
Jul 25 10:08:46 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> lol cheat engine?
Jul 25 10:08:48 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> yah
Jul 25 10:08:50 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> CE 6.4
Jul 25 10:08:52 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> im the one who create hacks
Jul 25 10:08:53 <DON> ** ID:[ 3 ] Lisandro >> hi
Jul 25 10:08:55 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> =,=
Jul 25 10:08:57 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> me too -.-
Jul 25 10:09:03 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> idb
Jul 25 10:09:04 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> i make Trainer 2016.exe
Jul 25 10:09:06 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> from C#
Jul 25 10:09:08 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> i dont believe
Jul 25 10:09:11 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> -.-
Jul 25 10:09:13 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> cause you still use cheat engine
Jul 25 10:09:13 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> ask inghtmare
Jul 25 10:09:15 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> i gave it to him
Jul 25 10:09:28 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> hack your hp with cheat engine and i will kill you
Jul 25 10:09:32 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> ok wait
Jul 25 10:09:37 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is offine.
Jul 25 10:09:40 <DON> * Moon is offine.
Jul 25 10:09:41 <DON> ** >> ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz Has Left The Server.(Quit)
Jul 25 10:09:46 <DON> * Moon is online.
Jul 25 10:09:52 <DON> ** [ =RK=BliTz ] Connecting From:[ India, IN ].
Jul 25 10:10:03 <DON> ** >> =RK=BliTz Has Spawned !
Jul 25 10:10:03 <DON> * =RK=BliTz is online.
Jul 25 10:10:21 <DON> * EK.CrystalBlue is online.
Jul 25 10:10:21 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> do you know a hack no fall from bike?
Jul 25 10:10:24 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> no
Jul 25 10:10:26 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> btw
Jul 25 10:10:29 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> i also make an ntinject.exe
Jul 25 10:10:29 <DON> ** ID:[ 1 ] Moon >> lol
Jul 25 10:10:35 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> using it can inject cleo or other asi'
Jul 25 10:10:36 <DON> Admin =RK=BliTz Banned (TempBan) Player: Moon
Jul 25 10:10:36 <DON> ** >> ID:[ 1 ] Moon Has Left The Server.(Kicked)
Jul 25 10:10:38 <DON> ** >> SfictioN Has Spawned !
Jul 25 10:10:38 <DON> * SfictioN is online.
Jul 25 10:10:39 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue >> lol
Jul 25 10:10:40 <DON> ** >> ID:[ 0 ] EK.CrystalBlue Has Left The Server.(Quit)
Jul 25 10:10:55 <DON> ** [ Moon ] Connecting From:[ Pakistan, PK ].
Jul 25 10:10:58 <DON> Enforcing prior ban on:[Moon] Reason:[hacks]Time left:[20 Days, 0 Hours, 19 Minutes]
Jul 25 10:10:58 <DON> ** >> ID:[ 0 ] Moon Has Left The Server.(Kicked)
Jul 25 10:11:17 <DON> ** [ ES2 ] Connecting From:[ United Arab Emirates, AE ].
Jul 25 10:11:24 <DON> ** ID:[ 0 ] ES2 >> hello
Jul 25 10:11:57 <DON> Admin =RK=BliTz Banned (TempBan) Player: ES2
Jul 25 10:11:57 <DON> ** >> ID:[ 0 ] ES2 Has Left The Server.(Kicked)
Jul 25 10:12:25 <DON> ** >> ID:[ 4 ] =RK=BliTz Has Left The Server.(Quit)


[EK.IceFlake]

How is this remotely related to the VKs server? I never did anything like that there.

[Stormeus]

How is this remotely related to the VKs server? I never did anything like that there.

Simple. If you can't respect the rules of other people's servers, I consider that a problem when you're a scripter on another.

[PunkNoodle]

I wanna shift the discussion towards another point: Does it really matter to be official? I mean are there proofs that a server becoming official really makes any difference? Personally I never check that tab, and surely I don't go playing in a server just cause it's there, since Daydream has become official I don't see any increase in players or any changes at all. You just know that is one, and surely as a server owner you must be proud. Oh and the only difference might be having the topic stickied to the servers board, however that is also unlikely to give you advantages, since I seriously doubt any new player goes to see the server board before playing any server. Here is some constructive criticism: if you want your server to be more visible, just use common sense: make a decent script, give nice people admin rights and increase the interest towards your server via events and activities, and if after all your server doesn't become official, then maybe it's not worth / you don't need it. If you already have more players then any other server that is official or not, why wouldn't you be satisfied enough by such an achievement? Peace

[VK.Angel.OfDeath]

How is this remotely related to the VKs server? I never did anything like that there.

Simple. If you can't respect the rules of other people's servers, I consider that a problem when you're a scripter on another.

Sorry for this long/boring post and excuse me for any grammatical and/or spelling errors in this post.

Just to get the facts straight he is not technically a scripter on our server. He ported over our server to 0.4 1 year ago with our old vehicles, skins, locations, properties. He also made a basic register system, admin system and statistic system, that has been heavily re-written since then. The rest of the content was pretty much made by me and I would say that the content I made make up about 99.9 % of the server. He is credited as a server creator because our server would have probably never made the switch 0.4 if he didn't port it over first.

I agree that it might be unethical to have a hacker in such a high position in our staff, but he has never been much of a problem to us. He respects our rules and knows that he can't get around them and that I will school him if he tries to. I can't tell him what to do on other servers and he has been around for so long that I trust him. Our community is run by our management team consisting of 6 respected members. No changes to the rules or other major things can be decided by one person, we all decide things together.

With that said, my thoughts about this topic:

"Servers being run by an active developer are almost automatically added to the official server list, as the term "official" ultimately means servers that are promoted by the development team."

I am not a VC-MP developer so no points for us.

"The server has been a long standing member of the VC:MP community and is frequented by many players on a daily basis. The server has some sort of historical significance to VC:MP and is currently active and moderated."

We've been around for 4 years but has only really been popular since around 0.4 came out, but I don't think we have made any sort of historical significance to VC:MP that I am aware of at least. Our server is active, moderated and have decent player base with about 10-20 players in average  online during daytime and can reach up to 30-40 during night time. I can't really predict how long that will last, but we have had a decent player base for almost 1 year.

"The server pushes the boundaries of what can be done in VC:MP, usually with the help of server plugins (Squirrel), and introduces new features that would not normally be possible."

I script in the boundaries of VC-MP and don't use any custom made plugins.

"The server offers unique gameplay than the usual fare of DM and is usually one of the first of its kind (see: community establishment). Thus, active servers of this kind may be nominated for official server status. That's not to say that all RP and race servers automatically meet this criterion. (See list of disqualifiers below.)"

Our server is a freeroaming server, where you have the option to:

1. DM.
2. Build your own world where you can add:
- 200 objects that only exists when someone is in your world.
- 100 pickups that only exists when someone is in your world. The pickup's can currently be: weapon pickups, teleport pickups, object move/rotation pickups, spawn pickups and message pickups.
- Your own rules for what applies in your property for default users up to level 4 users of your property. Some rules include: If player's can attack, driveby, bring vehicles, teleport in your property. You can also set the HP and armour for everyone that plays in your property.

I am sure I missed some details but that's pretty much it.

3. RPing is also possible due to the all the rules and control you can have in your own property world.

4. Minigames: You play the duel minigame, the taxi minigame, the shooting range minigame, the stunt minigame, the race minigame and the cat and mouse minigame and so on...

That's all I can come up with right now.

"There are no active administrators on the server to stop hackers, creating an unsatisfactory experience while playing."

We currently have 20 administrators on our server. Pretty much everyone visits it daily, but we could always get more admins in-game since we don't always have an admin in-game at all time.

"If the scripts are significantly broken, a server may be delisted."

I don't release any scripts without a lot of testing firsts. If I discover that something is broken, I correct it as soon as possible. But since we are always adding new content there is always a risk for something to break, but I am spending a lot of hours to make sure that doesn't happen.

"There may be administrators, but administrators that constantly harass players or actively encourage and wage war against other servers are not wanted and need not apply."

We don't allow harassment of other servers or players on our forum or server, but if we don't see it ourselves or receive the information from someone  else then we can't really prevent it.



Final thoughts: It's up to the developers what they feel is the right thing to do. I am not sure if we are far way from becoming an official server, will never be one or are close to it. But one thing is for sure hard work pays off, one way or another. I as a scripter is just going to continue to take advise and suggestions from my community to make the server as best as it can be for all types of players and keep working hard.

I really appreciate everyone who has supported and tried to make our server official, but try to not bother the developers too much they got better things to do than to spend their time reviewing servers.

P.S. There are a lot servers out there with a good player base like EC & The basil server that deserves a chance to earn an spot on the list as well.









 

[Stormeus]

The main takeaway I've gotten from this thread is that the criteria for official status appear to be completely arbitrary to people in the community while not being entirely significant. As such, I'm just going to completely roll back the idea of official community servers and simply limit it to servers that are affiliated with the development and beta testing teams. That's the only thing that'll prevent this from being a recurring issue.

[EK.IceFlake]

*crystal is planning to open his own masterlist*